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In 2007 the local BBC TV station did a feature on Nicola and I as the youngest clergy couple in the Church of England. Fortunately the footage has since been lost. But what was still quite rare in 2007 is now the new norm – at least for women in training.

Apparently 60% of women who are ordained will be in a Clergy Couple, Emma Ineson reported at the New Wine Clergy Couples gathering, (although when she tried to check this statistic with the CoE they said that they don’t keep those figures).

This blog explores some of the opportunities and issues this raises, based on extensive conversations with clergy couples, seminars at New Wine and on-line engagement.

Included are: Training; power dynamics, corporation sole, job-sharing, job switching, couples working in different contexts, remuneration, variation in remuneration between different Dioceses and the issues that causes nationally, local possibilities for remuneration and team/cluster ministries. It highlights how Dioceses known to be couple friendly might mitigate some of their recruitment problems through some creative thinking, encouragement and engagement.


  • Although there are patterns among clergy couples there is great variety in outworking calling.
  • There is also a very unhelpful disparity between different Dioceses (DDOs/Bishops) as to how they institutionally respond to a couple presenting for ordination, looking for jobs in their diocese.
  • There is a recruitment opportunity for Dioceses if they set out to be clergy couple friendly.
  • There are some learning opportunities for the wider church as well as key things for couples considering ordination to reflect on.
  • Life stage is a key determinant of how calling is outworked, as is whether calling came to both members of the couple separately or together.
  • Overall there is an enormous energy and creativity made possible through clergy couples that pragmatic dioceses could/should capitalise on.

Areas to consider

1) Training routes:

1 college showed great versatility for training couples with children. Both partners had 2 year training routes, but the college enabled them to spread these over 3 years, so that one of them could take a lead on childcare each year. They looked at several colleges but only this one was able to offer that bespoke flexibility.

2) Power Dynamics of Shared Curacies/Incumbencies/Episcopacies:

  1. The groups were aware of power dynamics that might be unhelpful from having an ordained couple on a staff team, but equally many have been part of a church where a couple positively exercised overall leadership together (even If one member was not ordained), and some had previously worked together when one or both were lay members of a church staff team.
  2. There is sufficient good practice and role models now that a simple code of practice can be written perhaps commissioned by Archbishop’s Council.
  3. With appropriate guidelines and accountability structures DDOs/ Training Incumbents/ Bishops should not fear placing a couple in ministry together.
  4. Particularly within the evangelical and charismatic tradition a very significant number of churches have informally been de facto led by a couple in ministry for decades, (‘who’s in the room when they are not in the room’).
  5. In recent years several resource churches have described themselves as led by a couple (e.g. Gas Street), even when only one of the couple are ordained. Significant New Wine churches like All Saints Woodford Wells, and St Paul’s Ealing have similar terminology.
  6. The new reality is that many couples in ministry are now both ordained / open to both being ordained. This means these ministry couples can now be selected, authorised and trained by the CoE. This should be seen as an opportunity rather than a threat.

Corporation Sole

  1. This was a 16thCentury invention of Sir Edward Coke that prevented an incumbent squandering benefice property, whilst also enabling them to protect the asset. In the modern UK church corporation sole is largely ‘superflous’ but was reaffirmed in the Mission and Pastoral Measure 2011, ss.34(2) and 37(5).[1]
  2. The impact on clergy couples however is anything but superfluous, and we would argue now is a major barrier to egalitarian ministry exercised jointly and equally by a couple called together.
  3. In essence it means only one of them can be the legal incumbent and the role cannot be shared equally in law. The outworking of this is that even in a ‘job share’ one member of the couple will be licensed as the incumbent, and the other will be licensed as their assistant curate.
  4. At a local level churches (and even Dioceses) may choose/allow other terminology ‘senior pastors’, ‘associate vicars’ etc, but the licensing remains polarised and hierarchical.
  5. This has implications when looking for further jobs. A clergy couple may have co-led a church, and but only one will have ‘prior incumbency status’ when looking for next jobs. The group had specific examples of patrons/Dioceses not willing to consider the ‘non-incumbent’ half of a clergy couple for an incumbent level next job in a church where the advert required previous incumbency experience.
  6. A majority of those entering into clergy couple ministry had little awareness of this legislation.

Job sharing in practice

  1. Major discrepancies are apparent between different Dioceses and even areas within Dioceses as to how these may be outworked.
  2. Some have required one of the couple to be full stipendiary incumbent and the other an NSM assistant curate.
  3. Where this has happened a further discrepancy is occurs between those who treat the second member as an anonymous irrelevance in terms of training and other opportunities etc and those who, despite the legal terminology, are prepared to treat the second person as a full stipendiary clergyperson for internal training purposes and other opportunities.
  4. Others have allowed a each person to have a 0.5 stipend, whilst having to designate one as the designated vicar under corporation sole.
  5. Although this option has an attraction for egalitarian couples seeking to work together, and at first glance it looks financially sound as it neither will be liable for much/any income tax, couples are now finding that they are not deemed eligible for the Heating, Lighting and Cleaning Tax allowance if they are both part-time, so in a large vicarage this may be end up being punitive, unless a way around that can be found by the national church.
  6. The 2x 0.5 stipend option leaves both members of the couple the option of earning additional monies outside of their parochial role.
  7. Anecdotally a clergy couple job sharing is likely to end up doing the equivalent of an 8-12 day working week – usually for one stipend. This partly reflects the ontological nature of priestly ministry, and the inevitable ‘on-duty’ nature of being a priest resident in a parish. Those who limited it to a clearly combined 6 days a week were usually involved in other defined roles that occupied significant parts of their time.
  8. When not well managed/defined shared clerical roles can be all consuming for a couple, with conversations and life almost entirely centred around ministry and parish.

Job switching

  1. Some couples doing a longer stretch in one parish had attempted to swop roles half-way through their term with varied responses from their Dioceses.
  2. Job swopping is an alternate way of achieving a degree of parity in role for some, validating both partners in a clergy couple as ‘incumbent’ level.
  3. It could work well for some couples when life stages / other ministerial opportunities mean one or other is more able to take the lead role in a parish.
  4. Clearly due process involving the parish/patrons/Bishop is needed.
  5. Consistency is again an issue: Where one cleric had been headhunted to a national church position, their spouse had been allowed to take on the incumbency of the parish. Where another couple had attempted it within the same Diocese they had been told it was not possible.
  6. Consistency and a code of practice is desirable.

Couples working in two parishes / one parish and one sector ministry

  1. There is a range of preferences, opinions/theologies and experiences among clergy couples with regards to working in two parishes.
  2. Some have a dominant ‘church as family’ model and find the idea of working in separate parishes problematic.
  3. Some end up working in separate parishes as the Diocese has insisted on it for a stipendiary curacy.
  4. Others found it preferable / validating for their individual call and ministry to exercise priestly calling in separate parochial contexts (and some found it better for their marriages).
  5. When working in separate parishes has been imposed on couples they reported some significant costs of the policy.
  6. There was an unexpected loss of involvement in their spouses’ life and ministry.
  7. Several reported feeling/being treated as a single person / single parent in ministry.
  8. Two parochial roles often led to significant diary clashes, including Sundays.
  9. Couples in two parishes may/may not require 2 vicarages.
  10. This partly depends on the understanding of vicarage being drawn upon, and partly on the geographical separation of the parishes. With regards to the former there is a question whether it is a mission base/retreat for vicar/simply a home? With regards to the later some prominent clergy couples are separated by county/Diocese and inevitably operate from two residential bases.
  11. This may provoke further theological reflection on ministry and marriage, and a possible distinction between couples who are both clergy – but to all intents and purposes exercising entirely distinctive ministry and clergy couples who see themselves as a ministry unit (with an assortment of variations in between the polar positions, and an acknowledgment that these may change with life-stage in a variety of directions).
  12. It was common where the couple had began in two parishes for one of them to have quickly taken on a sector job (diocesan/chaplaincy/parachurch) to achieve more life balance.
  13. It is common for clergy couples to be looking for one parish + one sector job. 

7) Remuneration

This is part of a broader, and different conversation about the nature of stipends, but it does have a particular bearing on those for whom their entire earnings potential is (in the usual scheme of things) vested in the church – i.e. couples where both partners are clergy.


  1. Again, there is significant divergence of practice on this nationally.
  2. At core is the issue of stipend and what that means in today’s church.
  3. The historic understanding of stipend was an amount of money that made it possible to live without earning money in other ways.
  4. However, a stipend is in no way means tested. In a household where there are two working age adults in a couple the most common contemporary pattern in UK society is for both to earn a wage. These wages take into account housing / commuting as the major expenditure items. In a couple where accommodation is provided freely as one person is a clergyperson with tied accommodation and the other in a professional job the overall disposable household income will be high. Averageprofessional salariesin London in property, HR, legal, accountancy, IT, construction and consultancy range from £47,000-£63,500pa.[2]
  5. So a couple where one was clergy and one in a professional job, could easily have a total household income of £70,000-£100,000+ (including a £25,000 stipend and free housing).
  6. If such a couple had no children with a £70,000 combined income they would have a net household equalised incomein the top 4% of the UK.[3][With three children this would still put them in the top 15%].
  7. By contrast a couple sharing a stipend could have a total household income of £25,000 (+benefits).
  8. According to the Institute of Fiscal Studies a family on one stipend with three dependent children have a net household equalised income in the bottom 20% of UK.[4]
  9. If they worked on one stipend between them for the full 43 years needed to be eligible for full pension, then on current projections they would have a total of £12,500pa church pension & National Insurance. From this they would need to rent a home assuming the likely reality that they have not been able to raise a deposit/mortgage from their solitary stipend over those 43 years of service.
  10. The key question is: Is a stipend still in any way ‘the money that is needed to live off and not take on another source of income’ if it does not take into account i) other household income; ii) cost of living variations between regions; iii) number of dependents supported by that ‘stipend’ iv) ability to contribute into retirement housing – which is no longer routinely provided.
  11. These are some of the realities that Dioceses and clergy need to think through when agreeing to a one ‘stipend’ job share.


8) Varying remuneration practices

  1. If a stipend is not in fact a stipend it becomes a de facto wage/salary – at least in popular understanding, if not in law.
  2. Part of having a wage is to reimburse you the opportunity cost of doing other things.
  3. In vocational jobs it is common to accept that wages may be lower, as the job is closely related to what you want to do – i.e. there is less opportunity cost.
  4. If either the wage or the enjoyment/vocational factor drop too low people will seek alternative employment (assuming they have the skill set to do so).
  5. Level of remuneration is a way that people measure self-worth, achievement etc…
  6. If a Diocese ordain two curates and say: ‘you must work where we tell you, in two separate contexts, for one stipend,’ it should not surprise them if this leads to problems. If a stipend is a wage and you are asking someone to work unwaged in a context they do not want to work in, you will be challenging their sense of self-worth.
  7. Similarly, if one of those curates is told to be non-stipendiary and the other stipendiary one will inevitably seem to be more validated than the other.
  8. Similarly, if stipend is in reality a wage, a candidate for a Diocesan officer post who is in a clergy couple where their spouse is a vicar in another Diocese may be affronted not to be offered a housing allowance for his work, if another candidate whose spouse was not a vicar would have been offered housing + accommodation or accommodation allowance. If the work is worth £25,000 + £12,500 housing allowance, to be asked to do it just for £25,000 feels like a relative 33% paycut.
  9. The same may be true for 2 parochial clergy operating separately but not given the chance to operate from two vicarages, i) if they have a vision for ministry in each parish from a base there… they might want to utilise the second home for workspace, hospitality, hosting interns, etc, and ii) in some cases, to save daily commuting over substantial distances.



9) Remuneration – local arrangements – issues/opportunities.

  1. Clergy couples / parishes where couples are willing and able to work together and one hopes to be ‘locally supported’ would benefit from being willing to negotiate on remuneration/pensions. In reality stipendiary clergy are more expensive than they at first appear as a huge pension contribution is added to the stipend to offset the historic issues in management of the Church of England Pension scheme. A premium of 38.2% of stipend is paid into the pension scheme – but 40% of this (14.7% of the 38.2%) is simply to cover the historic deficit.[5]
  2. So a parish inclined to fully fund a second stipendiary post for a clergy couple will find the on-costs of paying that additional clergy person unusually high compared to other staff they may have the privilege of employing, even without giving anything towards a housing allowance. Instead of a £25,000 stipend & usual on costs that they might pay for a lay-worker (20-25%), they will be adding on around 50%. So the pension & stipend part of the salary package would cost a parish £37,500 – and that is assuming no housing allowance. £37,500 is a substantial budget expenditure for any parish, and would fund high-calibre lay workers with a specialist ministry in operations, youth/children’s, worship etc. It is important to consider why the parish might need an additional clergy person as opposed to one of these other workers.
  3. This may be particularly problematic for curates. A good training parish/incumbent will invest significant time in a curate’s training. A curacy is not designed to be primarily about output fulfilling the vision of the PCC, but a necessary part of training to prepare someone for a lifetime of ministry in the wider church and hence in most Dioceses the costs of having a curate are absorbed by central funds. When a PCC funds a curate that changes the dynamic, and expectations inevitably rise. As it is a training post Curates tend to be increasingly productive year on year, but the trajectory is to grow and leave. Married curates will also (most likely) both leave at the same time. Given a choice of funding a potentially long-term specialist worker or a second curate with substantial training needs and a definite exit point, ordinands negotiating for funding from a PCC towards a second stipend should be aware that this is a big ask for the above reasons.
  4. On the other hand, if an additional clergy person in a parish is necessary, a clergy couple becomes fantastic value for money, if they are willing to work without an additional housing allowance, due to saving in housing costs that would arise from installing an alternative vicar. [Housing costs vary by region, but if an additional vicar needed housing this could add an additional £15-35,000 to parish costs / or loss of rental income if the parish already has property].
  5. Where there is locally supported ministry it is worth noting local arrangements can also be made for pensions. Financial advice should be taken, but clergy can opt out of the clergy pension scheme, and may find it prudent to invest in other ways, particularly with regards to retirement housing.


10) Working locally in a team or cluster ministry

  1. Deaneries and Dioceses operating cluster/team ministries should be particularly aware of the opportunities of appointing a clergy couple. In such contexts a clergy couple where both are focused on leading a local church can be a viable way of sharing ministry, whilst have a distinct vocation. In such a case there will already by common fund positions that a couple can step into.
  2. Life stage is again significant. Many clergy couples report a willingness to do 1.5 posts between them, particularly if raising children. Dioceses should continue to consider advertising for 0.5 / 0.75 and 1.5 posts and indicate if they have a willingness to consider a couple in ministry.


11)  Looking ahead

  1. i)  Clergy couples are one of the key strategic opportunities for the church. There is a rapid increase of those offering more ministry where both spouses will be clergy.
  2. ii)  ‘Clergy Couple Friendly Dioceses’ have recruitment opportunities that a barely being scratched at. Clergy couples tend to have a very high combined vocation and a willingness to serve, often for very little recognition or remuneration. So Dioceses/local churches/para-church organisations who offer better than average recognition and remuneration will find a very loyal, skilled and trained workforce who have a habit of going above and beyond.
  3. iii)  However the national church, through Archbishop’s Council/General Synod, would be well advised to pursue this further strategically. The New Wine Clergy Couples Network are very happy to share our experiences and expertise.